Legislature(1995 - 1996)

03/10/1995 01:45 PM House FIN

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  SENATE BILL NO. 13                                                           
                                                                               
       "An Act relating  to the admissibility of  evidence and                 
       testimony in criminal  and civil proceedings; directing                 
       the  admissibility  into  evidence of  deoxyribonucleic                 
       acid (DNA)  profiles in civil and criminal proceedings;                 
       amending  Rules 702(a) and  703 of the  Alaska Rules of                 
       Evidence to modify  the rule relating  to the basis  or                 
       foundation  for the  admissibility   of  expert opinion                 
       testimony  that is  based on  scientific evidence;  and                 
       amending Rules 401, 403, and 705 of the Alaska Rules of                 
       Evidence."                                                              
                                                                               
  SENATOR LOREN LEMAN testified in support  of CSSB 13(JUD) am                 
  (ct rule fld).   He  noted that the  legislation allows  the                 
  introduction of DNA  testing in  civil and criminal  trials.                 
  The legislation also  changes the  standard of DNA  evidence                 
  from  the Frye to the Daubert test.  The Daubert approach is                 
  used in federal  cases.   He noted that  court rule  changes                 
  included in SB  13 failed to pass the Senate.   He suggested                 
  that  the court  rule  change proposed  in  an amendment  by                 
  Representative Parnell  be adopted.   Members  were provided                 
  with Amendment  1 by Representative  Parnell (Attachment 9).                 
  Amendment  1 would remove the findings  section and add back                 
  one court rule change by amending Rule 703.                                  
                                                                               
  Senator Leman emphasized  that the  findings section of  the                 
  bill has been substantiated by  expert testimony.  He  noted                 
  members' intent  to streamline  the legislation  by removing                 
  the  findings section.    He stressed  that  removal of  the                 
  finding section  does not reflect  any question as  to their                 
  validity.                                                                    
                                                                               
  Senator Leman noted  that without the addition of  the court                 
  rule  changes DNA evidence can  still be introduced in civil                 
  or criminal trials.   However, the  change from the Frye  to                 
  the  Daubert standard could  not be  made without  the court                 
  instituting  the  change.    He  asserted that  the  Daubert                 
  standard  is a  superior  method.   He  emphasized that  DNA                 
  testing can help absolve persons of crime.                                   
                                                                               
  Representative Brown questioned if the court rule has  to be                 
  expressly modified in order  to be changed.  She  noted that                 
  the title does not accommodate a court rule change.                          
                                                                               
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  Senator Leman  emphasized that the bill should have at least                 
  one court rule change.   He assured members that  the Senate                 
  will support the addition of the court rule change.                          
                                                                               
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  Representative   Brown  asked  if   DNA  profiles  could  be                 
  introduced   without  having   to  prove   their  scientific                 
  validity.  Senator  Leman responded  that the Frye  standard                 
  requires the exercise  of showing  general consensus in  the                 
  scientific community.  Under the  Daubert standard the judge                 
  would admit evidence on the basis  of each case's scientific                 
  validity.                                                                    
                                                                               
  Representative Brown noted that there  are different ways to                 
  type DNA samples with varying  degrees of adequacy.  Senator                 
  Leman noted that methods are  changing.  No specific  method                 
  is identified in the legislation.  The judge has the ability                 
  to look at the evidence and determine if there is scientific                 
  validity to  the DNA  evidence for  each case.   The  test's                 
  validity would be debated at trial.   He noted that evidence                 
  in  the  Simpson trial  is being  debated.   In  response to                 
  further questioning  by Representative Brown,  Senator Leman                 
  noted that the  legislation states that  "the evidence of  a                 
  DNA profile is admissible to  prove or disprove any relevant                 
  fact."  He noted that the jury can weigh the adequacy of the                 
  evidence along with other evidence which is presented.                       
                                                                               
  Representative Brown asked  if the  court has addressed  the                 
  issue.  Senator Leman stressed that  the court will continue                 
  with the  Frye standard  unless the  change is  made by  the                 
  Legislature.   He emphasized that under the Frye standard it                 
  costs  approximately  $20  thousand  dollars to  demonstrate                 
  general consensus in  regards to the scientific  validity of                 
  DNA testing.  He observed that  there is a general consensus                 
  in the scientific community in regards to DNA typing.                        
                                                                               
  In response to  a question by Representative  Brown, Senator                 
  Leman   explained  that  several  experts  are  selected  to                 
  establish  the fact of a scientific  consensus in regards to                 
  the validity of DNA  testing.  He emphasized that  there may                 
  not be  a consensus on the accuracy for each type of testing                 
  or the validity of a particular  sample.  He maintained that                 
  the scientific community now accepts that each  person has a                 
  unique DNA print.   He  stressed that there  is a  consensus                 
  that DNA  testing is  a scientifically  valid procedure  for                 
  presenting evidence.                                                         
                                                                               
  DEAN  GUANELI, CHIEF ASSISTANT  ATTORNEY, DEPARTMENT  OF LAW                 
  stated that there is general scientific consensus that a DNA                 
  molecule  3exists, that it can be  found in all the cells of                 
  the  body,  and  that  it  can  be  broken  up  through  the                 
  application of certain chemicals.  When the parts are broken                 
  up  and  analyzed  they  can  be  compared  with  other  DNA                 
  molecules from other individuals.   He acknowledged that the                 
  consensus  as to  the  level of  probability  does not  have                 
  unanimity in the  scientific community.   He noted that  the                 
                                                                               
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  United  States  Supreme  Court   has  adopted  the   Daubert                 
  standard.  He suggested that courts be instructed to look to                 
  the  scientific  validity  not  the   to  unanimity  in  the                 
  scientific community because some of  the procedures are too                 
  new to have established scientific unanimity.                                
                                                                               
  Mr.  Guaneli  stated that  judges  will weigh  the pertinent                 
  factors  such  as  the  adequacy  of  the  sampling  or  the                 
  probability factor based  on the  defendant's subgroup.   He                 
  explained that the  court has  not felt it  is within  their                 
  purview to change the standard.  He stated that the issue is                 
  making its way  to the Alaska Supreme  Court.  He noted  the                 
  amount of  money spent by  the state  to bring  some of  the                 
  world's foremost experts on DNA typing to testify in serious                 
  criminal cases.  Mr. Guaneli noted that the legislation will                 
  allow local experts to testify in  regards to the scientific                 
  validity of the test used for a particular sample.  He noted                 
  that juries will  need to be  educated.  He emphasized  that                 
  in-state experts will be available.                                          
                                                                               
  JAYNE ANDREEN, DIRECTOR,  COUNCIL ON  DOMESTIC VIOLENCE  AND                 
  SEXUAL ASSAULT  testified in support of CSSB  13(JUD) am (ct                 
  rule fld).   She  stressed the  impacts of  DNA testing  and                 
  evidence presentations on sexual assault victims.  She noted                 
  that sexual assault  is one of  the lowest reported  crimes.                 
  She  estimated  that  only  5  -  25 percent  of  cases  are                 
  reported.  She stressed the difficulty in proving cases.  In                 
  many cases the  only evidence is  the victim's word  against                 
  the  offender's.    Victims  feel  victimized by  the  court                 
  process.    She  emphasized  that  DNA testing  provides  an                 
  additional  element   of  physical  evidence  that   is  not                 
  currently available.   She observed  that there is  a higher                 
  rate  of  conviction  with DNA  evidence  in  sexual assault                 
  cases.  She  suggested that  DNA evidence will  result in  a                 
  higher reporting rate of sexual assault cases.                               
                                                                               
  Representative Therriault MOVED  to adopt Amendment 1.   Mr.                 
  Guaneli  observed  that the  amendment  would make  the bill                 
  identical to HB 52.  He stated that the amendment will place                 
  the test  in  statute rather  than in  the court  rule.   He                 
  maintained that adoption  of the amendment will  support the                 
  argument that  the court should  accept the change  based on                 
  the statutory directive.                                                     
                                                                               
  Senator Leman added that the  amendment removes the findings                 
  section.  He  stressed that  no statement is  being made  in                 
  regards to the validity of the  findings.  The references to                 
  discovery were also removed since they are  already found in                 
  court rules.                                                                 
                                                                               
  There being NO OBJECTION, Amendment 1 was adopted.                           
  Representative Martin MOVED to report HCS  CSSB 13 (FIN) out                 
                                                                               
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  of Committee  with individual  recommendations and with  the                 
  accompanying fiscal notes.  There being NO OBJECTION, it was                 
  so ordered.                                                                  
                                                                               
  HCS  CSSB 13 (FIN) was reported out  of Committee with a "do                 
  pass" recommendation and with four  zero fiscal notes by the                 
  Department  of  Law,  dated  2/9/95;  Department  of  Public                 
  Safety, dated 2/9/95; the  Department of Corrections,  dated                 
  2/9/95; and the Department of Administration.                                

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